[Ocfs2-users] Hi

nirmal tom nirmaltom at hotmail.com
Mon May 7 12:10:39 PDT 2007


hi,
i dont think ,Alexei_Roudnev make any official recommendation.It is his 
suggestion only.If users dont have rights to criticize or suggest then it is 
not an open source solution, and it is not healthy for this mailing 
list.Perhaps, i found your words too strong sunil.Why cant u say it 
politely?

Regards,
Nirmal Tom.


>From: Sunil Mushran <Sunil.Mushran at oracle.com>
>To: Alexei_Roudnev <Alexei_Roudnev at exigengroup.com>
>CC: Ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com
>Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] Hi
>Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 10:47:25 -0700
>
>None of what you have written allows you to use our resources to
>spread your opinions as official recommendation.
>
>Alexei_Roudnev wrote:
>>Yes, you distribute and support OCFSv2; but Oracle is another story, and 
>>the
>>common recommendation
>>from many different Oracle engineers (not related to OCFSv2) is _don't use
>>OCFS for RAC files /OCRFile and CSSFile/_. Which I fully agree - it don't
>>have any benefits but a lot of headache. Using OCFSv2 for backups or 
>>archive
>>logs is another story, for example.
>>
>>Oracle itself have not a SINGLE opinion (to be curious, I hear a strong
>>recommendation against OCFSv2 from oracle support, which I can not agree
>>with), so we can't treat your recommendations as official as well - you 
>>are
>>interested in OCFSv2 while users are not (users are interested in making 
>>our
>>data centers run smoothly). The only _official_ thing is _certification
>>matrix_.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- Alexei,
>>While you are free to use this forum to share your opinions, do not
>>couch these opinions as official recommendations. When push comes to
>>shove, we are helping users not you. We develop, build, distribute
>>the software, not you. So it may serve to community better if you
>>let us offer the "official" recommendations and not you.
>>
>>Sunil
>>
>>Alexei Roudnev wrote:
>>
>>>It is STRONLY recommended do not use OCFSv2 for CRS and OCR files.
>>>Just create 2 partitions, 1 - 105 MB for OCRFile , and 1 - 22 MB for
>>>CSSFIle,
>>>make them raw using raw script (check with the docs, Oracle promise to
>>>make it work without raw) and use them in CRS.
>>>If using OCFSv2, you must use datavolume mounting option, which is not
>>>supported in all versions.
>>>Before it all, make a sanity checks:
>>>- on node 1
>>>echo 1234 > a
>>>- on node 2
>>>cat a
>>>echo 3456 > a
>>>- on node 1
>>>cat a
>>>and be sure that it all works.
>>>When posting here, always specify:
>>>- Linux version
>>>- how do you install ocfsv2 (comes with the system or added by rpm or
>>>compile yourself)
>>>- at least, output of rpm -qa | grep ocfs
>>>Why OCFSv2 is not good for OCR and CSS Files - in short:
>>>- OCR and CSS Files are control files for the Oracle cluster (CRS).
>>>CRS runs heartbeat, check cluster consistency and quorum,
>>>makes decisions to self-fence node and so on.
>>>- OCFSv2 is cluster too. It makes the same job, independently.
>>>When you mix 2 clusters together, it may cause insonsistent
>>>(suboptimal) decisions. In addition, make OCR and CSS Files on raw
>>>partition is pretty simple and harmless. IN addition, OCFSv2 have some
>>>instabilities and timeouts, and CRS have it's own timeouts - and this
>>>timeouts are not adjusted one to others.
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* Dheerendar Srivastav <mailto:Dheerendars at bajajcapital.com>
>>>     *To:* Ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com <mailto:Ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com>
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2007 11:35 PM
>>>     *Subject:* [Ocfs2-users] Hi
>>>
>>>     Hi
>>>
>>>     We are installation of oracle RAC and install the ocfs2 but check
>>>     /o2cb status is running fine but when we installation of the crs
>>>     the error message show share space not found.
>>>     Pls any body kindly provide the solution.
>>>     Dheerendar Srivastav
>>>     Associate vice President -IT
>>>     Bajaj Capital Ltd.
>>>     New Delhi
>>>
>>>     p FQȔB ד5Dĉb ??
>>>     
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