[Ocfs2-users] Re: OCF2 and LVM

Sunil Mushran Sunil.Mushran at oracle.com
Tue Oct 9 08:57:59 PDT 2007


While you can copy files directly, using RMAN makes sense.
RMAN backs up only updated blocks and thus is far more
efficient than cp.

Luis Freitas wrote:
>
>
>    In OCFSv1 this could only be done with the oracle patched binutils, 
> but it should be safe to backup OCFSv2 files directly.
>
>    Any input from the developers?
>
> Regards,
> Luis
>
> */Shivaprasad Kambalimath <ShivaprK at herbalife.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>
>     We use EMC's BCV for OCFS2 split mirror and it works just fine
>     (10.2.0.3
>     and RH Linux 4). The only problem is we can't backup to tape directly
>     from ocfs2 (we are using legato and I haven't heard of any other third
>     party s/w doing this without rman). So, we copy files to ext3, zip
>     them
>     and then take tape backup.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Shiva Kambalimath
>
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>     1. OCF2 and LVM (Riccardo Paganini)
>     2. Re: OCF2 and LVM (Jordi Prats)
>     3. Re: OCF2 and LVM (Alexei_Roudnev)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:35:54 +0200
>     From: "Riccardo Paganini"
>     Subject: [Ocfs2-users] OCF2 and LVM
>     To: ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com
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>     Does anybody knows if is there a certified procedure in to
>     backup a RAC DB 10.2.0.3 based on OCFS2 ,
>     via split mirror or snaphots technology ?
>
>
>     Using Linux LVM and OCFS2, does anybody knows if is
>     possible to dinamically extend an OCFS filesystem,
>     once the underlying LVM Volume has been extended ?
>
>     Thanks in advance
>     Riccardo Paganini
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------
>
>     Message: 2
>     Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:20:08 +0200
>     From: Jordi Prats
>     Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCF2 and LVM
>     To: Riccardo Paganini
>     Cc: ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com
>     Message-ID: <470A74D8.9090702 at cesca.es>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>     Hi,
>     I'm not an expert on oracle, but I don't think using a snapshot is a
>     recommended backup solution. You should use data pump or exp
>     utilities
>     to backup your database.
>
>     To extend your fs, tune2fs.ocfs2 requires you to umount it,
>     according to
>
>     it's man page:
>
>     ==
>     tunefs.ocfs2 is used to adjust OCFS2 file system parameters on disk.
>     In order to prevent data loss, tunefs.ocfs2 will not perform any
>     action on the specified device if it is mounted on any node in the
>     cluster. This tool requires the O2CB cluster to be online.
>     ==
>
>     The concrete command should be: tune2fs.ocfs2 -S /dev/LVM_volume
>
>     I don't know if there's any way to extend it without umounting it.
>
>     If you want to extend your fs without umounting it you should use ASM
>     instead of OCFS2.
>
>     regards,
>     Jordi
>
>     Riccardo Paganini wrote:
>     > Does anybody knows if is there a certified procedure in to backup a
>     RAC
>     > DB 10.2.0.3 based on OCFS2 ,
>     > via split mirror or snaphots technology ?
>     >
>     >
>     > Using Linux LVM and OCFS2, does anybody knows if is possible to
>     > dinamically extend an OCFS filesystem,
>     > once the underlying LVM Volume has been extended ?
>     >
>     > Thanks in advance
>     > Riccardo Paganini
>     >
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>     Message: 3
>     Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:49:29 -0700
>     From: "Alexei_Roudnev"
>     Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCF2 and LVM
>     To: "Jordi Prats" , "Riccardo Paganini"
>
>     Cc: ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com
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>     reply-type=response
>
>     I dont knoiw any lvm technology which can make a snapshort in
>     clustered
>     environment, so better forget this idea.
>
>     Recommended method to do oracle backups is rman. Any violation of
>     this
>     brings you into the swamp of possible oracle bugs.
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Jordi Prats"
>     To: "Riccardo Paganini"
>     Cc:
>     Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:20 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCF2 and LVM
>
>
>     > Hi,
>     > I'm not an expert on oracle, but I don't think using a snapshot
>     is a
>     > recommended backup solution. You should use data pump or exp
>     utilities
>     to
>     > backup your database.
>     >
>     > To extend your fs, tune2fs.ocfs2 requires you to umount it,
>     according
>     to
>     > it's man page:
>     >
>     > ==
>     > tunefs.ocfs2 is used to adjust OCFS2 file system parameters on disk.
>     In
>     > order to prevent data loss, tunefs.ocfs2 will not perform any
>     action
>     > on the specified device if it is mounted on any node in the cluster.
>     This
>     > tool requires the O2CB cluster to be online.
>     > ==
>     >
>     > The concrete command should be: tune2fs.ocfs2 -S /dev/LVM_volume
>     >
>     > I don't know if there's any way to extend it without umounting it.
>     >
>     > If you want to extend your fs without umounting it you should
>     use ASM
>     > instead of OCFS2.
>     >
>     > regards,
>     > Jordi
>     >
>     > Riccardo Paganini wrote:
>     >> Does anybody knows if is there a certified procedure in to backup a
>     RAC
>     >> DB 10.2.0.3 based on OCFS2 ,
>     >> via split mirror or snaphots technology ?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Using Linux LVM and OCFS2, does anybody knows if is possible to
>     >> dinamically extend an OCFS filesystem,
>     >> once the underlying LVM Volume has been extended ?
>     >>
>     >> Thanks in advance
>     >> Riccardo Paganini
>     >>
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