[Ocfs2-users] Also just a comment to the Oracle guys

Alexei_Roudnev Alexei_Roudnev at exigengroup.com
Wed Jan 31 11:12:08 PST 2007


It is what I am saying. If RHEL have not modules and tools included (Oracle
Linux had, something), _OR_ if rpm's are not available for your specific
kernel, then this combination should not be used in production at all,
except if you have a very good test/stress laboratory.

Not a surprise that SLES9 OCFSv2 is extremely stable today (after a few
iterations) - because everyone in SLES community uses _the same_ ocfs and
kernel combination. Manual 'compiling' is good for my home or for the
laboratory, but rarely for the production.

(I usually avoid compiling even for the HBA device drivers from the vendor -
experiments shows, that if drivers are not included in the system, they are
not so well tested as embedded ones and can cause a problems, esp. after
kernel upgrades).

Embedded drivers are not panaceia - SLES10 broke OCFS in the one of last
kernel updates - but it became known in a few days.

Of course, embedded drivers are often _outdated_ - so such approach have
it's own problems.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Lank" <TLank at ppc.com>
To: "Mark Fasheh" <mark.fasheh at oracle.com>; "Alexei_Roudnev"
<Alexei_Roudnev at exigengroup.com>
Cc: "OCFS2 Users List" <ocfs2-users at oss.oracle.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Ocfs2-users] Also just a comment to the Oracle guys


Mark,

I think that SLES includes your kernel module in its distributions &
regular updates these days.

When will Red Hat be doing this for RHEL?

Regards,
Tim

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-----Original Message-----
From: ocfs2-users-bounces at oss.oracle.com
[mailto:ocfs2-users-bounces at oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Mark Fasheh
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:33 AM
To: Alexei_Roudnev
Cc: OCFS2 Users List
Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] Also just a comment to the Oracle guys

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:15:46PM -0800, Alexei_Roudnev wrote:
> IF you need to DOWNLOAD and COMPILE KERNEL component
>
> THEN
>
> this system is not production ready.
>
> ENDIF
>
> (Reason - your personal combination of module, kernel, libraries and
other
> components was never tested in the wild).

He never said it was _required_ for him to download a mainline kernel.

To clarify - the 1.2.x series (for which we make rpms available) is a
bugfix
only release. Anything that's fixed in mainline is backported to that
svn
branch. Most of the time fixes get uploaded simultaneously. If you don't
believe me, subscribe to the ocfs2-commits list (which tracks 1.2.x
commits).

So, please try to relax, and cut down on the constant yelling. It
doesn't
help anyone...
--Mark

--
Mark Fasheh
Senior Software Developer, Oracle
mark.fasheh at oracle.com

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